[Devils-list] WHO WANTS TO PULL BRODIE NOW?

[DDHOCKEY]

>Cujo has always been one of the
>tops in Save percentage in the NHL, and yet, gee... he has no rings.

>He's never been on a team that could win it before. If it were
>possible to win a cup with one man alone, I'm pretty sure he'd be the
>one to do it.

I see a bit of a conflict here.  If Cujo is a better goaltender he could
have led his team, whatever they were, to a ring and a championship. If you
discount the idea of him winning before because of the team around him, you
have to also consider the fact the devils D has not done its clearing out
job in this series contributing to marty's lower stats.

I have long been confused by which is the better stat to look at on a
goaltender - GAA or S% - and frankly still am.  Cujo is riding a hot streak
right now and his confidence level must be way way WAY up there -

di



----- Original Message -----
From: Don Whiting <dwhiting@accesswave.ca>
To: <devils-list@badweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 2:01 AM
Subject: RE: [Devils-list] WHO WANTS TO PULL BRODIE NOW?


> >Don, Don, Don...
> >Come on... save percentage is hardly a stat by which to solely rank
goalies
> >on. Are you telling me if Cujo faces 100 shots from the blue line and
stops
> >them all, but Marty faces 50 shots from the slot, and misses 5, Cujo is
> >better?
>
> I wasn't aware that the Devils were getting all their shots from the
> blue line and all of Toronto's were in the slot. I stand corrected.
>
> >  Fact is,
> >the Devils D stops most of the easy shots before they ever get to Marty.
>
> I wasn't aware that Toronto were totally inept in shot blocks... I
> remember something about 22 shot blocks in game 1, but I must have
> been a typo... and so what about tonight game. Are you suggesting
> that the only reason we got 45 shots is because 22 of them weren't
> blocked? That really, Toronto was skating circles around us? The
> reason we got 45 shots is because they were all perimeter shots?
>
>
> >  Bottom line is I want a goalie who brings everything, not just save
> >percentage.
>
> I, on the other hand, want a goalie who can block some shots. I ask
> nothing more. I want my goalie to BLOCK THE SHOTS. Maybe you want
> something else.
>
> >Cujo has always been one of the
> >tops in Save percentage in the NHL, and yet, gee... he has no rings.
>
> He's never been on a team that could win it before. If it were
> possible to win a cup with one man alone, I'm pretty sure he'd be the
> one to do it.
>
>
> >A little stat:
> >Cujo:
> >GP MIN W L GAA
> >87 5280 41 44 2.64
> >
> >
> >Marty:
> >GP MIN W L GAA
> >84 5324 50 34 1.86
>
> And these numbers have *nothing* to do with the team that plays in
> front of you.
> During the regular season Curtis faced 1744 while Brodeur didn't face
> 1600. Can you figure out why more goals were scored on Joseph? Oh,
> wait, let me read that again.... Brodeur, had far less shots against
> him, but let in more goals.
>
> >That's coming into this year. games played and minutes nearly identical.
> >Marty is 17 games over .500. And his goals against is more than 3/4 of a
> >goal better.
>
>
> Again, more shots = more goals against. Devils limit shots = less
> goals = low GAA = more wins. Simple.
>
>
> >That's proven consistency over 7 years in the league.  Don't
> >forget to add that big silver bowl either. Twice.
>
> Yes. Of course. Because you've won the cup automatically makes you a
> better player. Which means that Colin White is better than Ray
> Bourque and Jay Pandolfo is a better player than Ziggy Palfy.
>
> Fact is that Brodeurs numbers are propped up by the fact we have a
> strong team. On the flip side, Joseph has played with some rather
> mediocre teams that have only gotten as far as they have in the
> playoffs by riding his coattails.
>
>    -----------
>
> It is your choice. Take your pick.
>
> Cujo better than Marty because of save %.
> Toronto forwards better than Devils forwards because of shot %.
>
> Since you're arguing blocked shots, I gather you are leaning towards
> the latter, eh?
>
>
>                                         Don Whiting
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